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作者: Paracel_007 时间: 2009-11-22 14:52:30 标题: 【转自TP】12阶？！！！！

http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=15424

某个疯子作出12阶了……
不是V结构的~~~~很强！！！

视频：http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=43186&extra=page%3D1 陆版的贴~~~看起来不太好转~~不过做出来就是奇迹！

I must confess that I've already calmed down to finally see it working, do you?

Sorry for a long wait.

There are some black parts, it's just for test of solid dyeing in replacement of stickering which is not quite suitable for small facelets.

Some background info

Someday in April this year when I was wandering in a local bookstore, an impressive puzzle caught my eyes firmly. It's a cube with hundreds of facelets, V7.

How did they make it? Filled up with wonders, I did a lot of searches when I was back in home. Finally, the patent of Mr. Verdes came into my sight. Can you imagine the feeling when I saw the file? Incredible! So much appreciations go to Mr. Verdes!

mf8 & TP are essentially two major forums when I was searching for related key words. With the information therein, I was able to catch a glimpse of the latest technologies behind those big assemblies as well as flushes of inspiring thoughts and comments. They simply became my daily readings, which finally led me to the 12x12x12 project.

The whole project starts from the well-known 'hidden layer' which I thought was unnecessary. Although I'm not explaining the detailed strategy to achieve a new mechanism(as most designers do), it is true that careful investigations of Mr. Verdes' file along with some other patent files were carried out. Huge thanks to Mr. Verdes as well as his excellent designs.

Another goal of this project is to explore the area of extra-high order cubes, esp popping & alignment issues. By 'extra-high order' I mean when layers increase above 10. Every intermediate rotational layer will contain more than 30 parts. If a small gap is allowed for each part, then there's a possibility that there can be a gap of 30 times larger than normal when the layer is squeezed in one direction.

The kick off decision was made by the fact that I saw very few attemps to make normal cubes of higher order in both of the forums. I didn't know why since there were so many odd shapes being tried out.

It has been more than 6 months since this 12th cube was designed. Although I prefer theoretical investigations, I felt it necessary to make it real. Well, "have to be made".

I love it.

Enjoy!

Leslie

呃……这段话里还带过了mf8

他就给了四张图，一时估不出多大~~~~
下面sokoban的回帖说：“你可以参加mf8的第二届DIY大赛，我确定你能得大奖 ”
（不知他对大奖里的永骏9有兴趣否

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[ 本帖最后由 Paracel_007 于 2009-11-27 18:23 编辑 ]

作者: sjy970703 时间: 2009-11-22 14:55:43

沙发！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！

作者: xty_90 时间: 2009-11-22 14:57:29

板凳。。好强大。。。。。

作者: 今夜微凉 时间: 2009-11-22 15:02:04

12~偶数阶从四阶来看，我基本失望~

作者: maqianxi 时间: 2009-11-22 15:02:41

12阶有点强悍了吧~~~8和10还没有呢~~~

作者: Vicki 时间: 2009-11-22 15:03:29

要是真的参加MOD赛的话...

作者: Paracel_007 时间: 2009-11-22 15:04:32 标题: 回复 4# 的帖子

这个人好像没说手感如何，也没给视频（估计给了也看不到~Youtube……）

恐怕手感也不会太好吧，V的偶数阶本就有缺陷，现在期待着圣手

作者: rickymohk 时间: 2009-11-22 15:05:15

黑色的master塊也裝上去了..為啥就不多做一個使顏色統一呢

作者: Paracel_007 时间: 2009-11-22 15:12:59

@MeMyselfAndPi

This version is just for test, not for sell. It works properly though a bit tight.

A better version is in progress, but it's much harder to make(MU-59, you can see some part of it in half transparent color in the third picture). I'll make some of them available to serious collectors.

Currently the mechanism won't see the day of light unless the patent file is granted. But I'm considering cancelling the application. Laws as you know, seems always broken anywhere in the world. However, I'll keep it available to serious requests.

If someone wants it really badly, just give me your preferred size together with a generous offer. The number of layers practically available is ranged between 6~20.

@sokoban
In my consideration, TP is more oriented at puzzle making. I think cube lovers like you won't miss that info in any case, right?

Leslie

看样他对参赛没兴趣，还会出新版

Well Billy... I mean making a working cube of more than 20 layers can be very costy(perhaps tens of thousands of dollars as well as a huge amount of labor) which is impractical.

Leslie

做20阶，要很多钱~~……

作者: 五叶草 时间: 2009-11-22 15:25:05

自己手工做的，还是机器呢？？？

作者: edmond-xym 时间: 2009-11-22 15:32:07

估计也是V结构吧，不知道什么时候才能有量产的12阶哦。

作者: lamianbu 时间: 2009-11-22 15:40:58

原帖由 Paracel_007 于 2009-11-22 15:04 发表
这个人好像没说手感如何，也没给视频（估计给了也看不到~Youtube……）

恐怕手感也不会太好吧，V的偶数阶本就有缺陷，现在期待着圣手

圣手能做好偶数阶？

作者: Paracel_007 时间: 2009-11-22 15:42:13 标题: 回复 12# 的帖子

不知道，圣手不是说开发4，6，8阶了吗~~……还说是新结构

作者: ZJY 时间: 2009-11-22 15:53:46

为什么有几个块是黑色的呢？看上去有点不和谐

作者: daungau 时间: 2009-11-22 16:22:23

嘩,很強大, 等視頻

作者: lunny 时间: 2009-11-22 17:30:32

这工作量可不小，不知道是哪位牛人，有没有吧里的ID，亮亮相吧，让偶们崇拜崇拜

作者: rickymohk 时间: 2009-11-22 17:48:04

原帖由 ZJY 于 2009-11-22 15:53 发表
为什么有几个块是黑色的呢？看上去有点不和谐

黑色的是3d打印出來的..或者是找什麼工廠加工出來的..而白色的是用黑色的翻模出來的

作者: liuzhongyu 时间: 2009-11-22 17:54:45

这东西参加DIY大赛，我觉得似乎意义不大。

作者: xb27 时间: 2009-11-22 17:59:10

有圖嗎~~我上不了tp的

作者: Zeon.C 时间: 2009-11-22 18:15:50

打印的？强…是真的么　

作者: Paracel_007 时间: 2009-11-22 19:01:01

至少从四幅图看，应该是真的
不过，结构的十二阶很稳定吗？

作者: raka 时间: 2009-11-22 19:18:22

这实在是太bt了！如果有视频就更好咯

作者: shaoqq 时间: 2009-11-24 15:41:49

那9阶怎么办,还出不出啊

作者: ursace 时间: 2009-11-24 16:21:27

有了那几个黑块，看起来就像杂交玉米似的

作者: oyyq99999 时间: 2009-11-25 12:53:05

不是V结构。。。。

作者: Paracel_007 时间: 2009-11-25 22:20:04

似乎我理解错原话了~~
周末看下明达的视频~

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