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作者: tspan    时间: 2012-5-1 16:21:58     标题: 【转自Speedsolving.com】Interview with Feliks Zemdegs

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If your main challenge was to overcome yourself?
Every day
In each solve
Each Record
If the parameter of the humanly possible was you?
How would you deal with the pressure?

He broke 26 World Records in 2011 - the second place, 4.
The best Speedcuber of the history
You should know about what I'm talking

Well, he’s Feliks Zemdegs. This person changed the limits of the Speedcubing. He granted me an interview, about his training, memorization, PB’s, personal preferences and color neutrality, of course. The complete interview, you can read below. Enjoy!


Interview with Feliks Zemdegs

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Date: 14/02/2012


-What is your PB’s (personal best) in the puzzles 2x2-7x7 (lucky/nl/5/12/100) ?

2x2: no idea/no idea/1.6x/1.8x/2.1x
3x3: 4.68/unsure/6.94/7.78
3x3 OH: 8.xy/unsure/11.xy/12.2x or something/14.xy
4x4: 26.xy/unsure/34.xy/unsure
5x5: 48.23/56.xy/1:00.xy
6x6: 1:43/Mid 1:50's/2:00.xy/2:06.xy
7x7: 2:59/3:2x/3:29/3:38

Color Neutrality

-About color neutrality, it can helps in what you? Just in the cross?

It helps in the cross, and the lookahead to the first pair, which in turn helps the whole solve flow.

-What is your advice for cubers that want to be color neutral?

Start practicing it as soon as possible, it’s easiest to learn it when you first learn to solve a cube, but if you want to switch, it’s definitely possible, quite a few people have done it

-Since when you are Color neutral? Somebody adviced you?

Since I learnt the cube. In his video, Dan Brown (pogobat) advises people to not only solve on green, but start solving on the easiest cross to cut off time, which makes sense logically.

Training/memorization

-How many hours for day you train (in average)? Where? And how you divide your train?

In 2009/2010, a fair bit – it’s never easy to put a number on it, but if I was to have a guess, maybe 30-60 minutes Monday-Friday, and 1hour+ on weekends. I normally practice in my room, but it often helps to do casual, slow solves, just practicing lookahead, and messing around with the cube. I had no regime, I just practiced whatever I wanted to, whenever I wanted to.

In 2011, it probably looked like I was practicing heaps, but really, I just maintained my speed, taking breaks, and solving less. This year, and next year are the most important schooling years, and I really don’t see myself going crazy with the cube like I did when I was 13 or so.

-What is your advice for cube training?

Only practice when you want to, don’t force it. Do slow solves without a timer. Play around with the cube, try things out.
“Breaks make you better” – Stefan Huber/Breandan Vallance

-Where did you get the algorithms that you use?

The ones I first learnt for OLL and PLL were from Badmephisto.com, but since then I’ve learnt so many different cases and algs, from a wide variety of sources, and I don’t really remember.

-What is your technique for memorization and recognition of cases?

Just do it. Practice. There is no secret to learning and recognizing cases. It takes time, and practice. The more algs that you learn, the easier they become to learn.

Inspection

-What you see/find in the inspection time?

Cross and first pair. If I don’t find the first pair in inspection, it is usually not a great solve.

Personal

-What WR let you more accomplished?

I think my favourite world record was the 3x3 single – 7.03, just because I finally did what everyone was expecting me to do. Some others that stick out are the 9.21 average for 3x3, the sub minute average for 5x5 at worlds, and probably my 4x4 blindfolded – as it was so unexpected.

-What are your best friends that more help you?

Well, I could go on forever naming people who inspired me, or who I consider good friends. The cubers here in Melbourne are all really cool, the community is really nice. Some of my friends from school also take interest in what I do.

-Do you listen music when you are solving and training? What kind of?

Yes, most of the time, as you can see in my videos, otherwise it gets quite boring.
I enjoy all sorts of music, and my tastes change day to day. The main artists I listen to are: 360, Coldplay, Crowded house, Eminem, Evanescence (yeah, bit weird), MGMT, Muse, My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Red Hot Chili peppers, and Tim Minchin, but he doesn’t really count
Also, I recently downloaded this, and I’m listening to all of those songs at the moment (link)

-What you want to be when you grow up? (occupation)

I’m not too sure at this stage, I’m looking towards something in the engineering or business fields.

-Do you want, more forward, to create a new method?

No, I’ll leave that to other people

-What the best cube in your opinion? And what is that you more trained?

It’s all personal preference, but generally any Dayan brand cube is really good. In my opinion, the ZhanChi is the best for speedcubing.

-How their parents deal with you cubing?

My dad comes to competitions to help out and film, and as long as I’m not cubing when they go to sleep, they don’t really mind it.

What is your favorite subject in the school ?

Maths or Chemistry

- Do you practice some kind of physical exercise?

If by physical exercise, you mean sport, then I play tennis, soccer, and golf
But if it was for cubing - I don't do any specific drills or exercises for cubing.

Thank you so much, Feliks for your collaboration and patience. This was very interesting.

So, that was The Fazt.
作者: Cm_Hu    时间: 2012-5-1 16:33:03

目测楼下会有人求翻译。。。
作者: 肥嘟嘟左卫门    时间: 2012-5-1 16:34:09

我就是来求翻译的~
作者: k789m    时间: 2012-5-1 16:36:30

这不是对菲利克斯的采访吗。
作者: LAMBO    时间: 2012-5-1 16:41:23

谷歌翻译
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如果您的主要挑战是要克服自己?
每天
在每个解决
每个记录
如果力所能及的参数是你吗?
你将如何处理压力?

他打破了26个世界纪录,在2011年 - 第二位,4。
历史上最好的Speed​​cuber
你应该知道我在说什么

嗯,他是费利克斯Zemdegs。这个人改变了Speed​​cubing的限制。他批准了我的采访,关于他的训练,记忆,PB的个人喜好和中立的颜色,当然。完整的采访,你可以阅读下面。享受!


采访费利克斯Zemdegs

地点:澳大利亚墨尔本
日期:14/02/2012


- 什么是你的PB在拼图的2x2-7X7(lucky/nl/5/12/100)(个人最好成绩)?

2x2的:不知道/没有idea/1.6x/1.8x/2.1x的
3x3的:4.68/unsure/6.94/7.78
3x3的OH:8.xy/unsure/11.xy/12.2x的或something/14.xy
吉普车:26.xy/unsure/34.xy/unsure
5X5:48.23/56.xy/1:00.xy
6X6:1:43 / 1:50中“S / 2:00 XY / 2:06 XY
7X7 2:59 / 3:2 / 3时29分/ 3点38分

颜色中立

关于色彩的中立性,它可以帮助你吗?只是在十字架?

它有助于在十字架上,并且第一次配对,从而有助于整体解决流动超前。

什么是你的希望是中性色彩为cubers的意见?

练了尽快启动,它是最容易学习它时,你首先要学会解决一个立方体,但如果你想切换,这是绝对有可能,不少人已经做到了

因为当你是中性色彩?有人谏吗?

因为我学到的立方体。在他的视频,丹布朗(pogobat)建议人们不仅要解决的绿色,但开始切断时间,这是有道理的逻辑上最简单的交叉解决。

培训/记忆

一天,你列车(平均)多小时?在哪里?以及如何划分你的火车吗?

在2009/2010年度,公平位 - 这是不容易的把它的数字,但如果我有一个猜测,也许30-60分钟,周一至周五,1小时+周末。我通常在我的房间里练习,但它经常帮助做散,慢的解决,只是实行超前,搞乱与立方体。我没有政权,我就练什么我想,只要我想。

2011年,它可能看起来像我练堆,但说真的,我只是保持我的速度,时间,解决少。今年,明年是最重要的教育多年,我真不明白自己与立方体疯了,像我一样,当我13岁左右。

立方体培训的意见是什么?

只有实践,当你想,不要强迫它。不要慢的解决没有一个计时器。玩的立方体,尝试的事情。
“休息让你更好” - 斯特凡·胡贝尔/ Breandan瓦兰斯

你从哪里得到你所使用的算法?

的,我第一次听说OLL和PLL是从Badmephisto.com,但从那时起,我学会了这么多不同的情况和ALGs,从各种来源,我真的不记得。

什么是你的案件的记忆和识别技术?

只要做到这一点。实践。有没有学习和认识情况下的秘密。这需要时间和实践。 ALG算法,你要学会,更容易成为学习。

检查

- 什么你看到/在检查时发现呢?

交叉和第一对。如果我没有在检查中发现的第一对,它通常是一个伟大的解决。

个人

西铁让你更有成就?

我觉得我最喜爱的世界纪录是3x3的单 - 7.03,只是因为我终于做了什么大家都期待我做的。伸出有些人是为3x3的9.21,平均分分钟平均在世界5x5的,可能我的吉普车被蒙住眼睛 - 因为它是那么突兀。

什么是你最好的朋友更多的帮助你吗?

好吧,我可以去永远命名的人谁启发了我,我认为好朋友。在墨尔本cubers这里都是真的很酷,社会是非常好的。一些学校的朋友还需要我做什么兴趣。

你听音乐时,你正在解决和培训?什么样的?

是的,大部分时间,你可以看到我的影片,否则就变得很无聊。
我喜欢各种音乐,和我的口味改变日常。我听的主要艺术家是:360,酷玩,拥挤的房子,阿姆,伊凡塞斯(是啊,有点怪),MGMT的,缪斯,我的化学浪漫,Paramore,红辣椒,和蒂姆·明钦,但他并没有真正数
另外,我最近下载了这一点,我听所有这些歌曲的时刻(链接)

你要当你长大了吗? (职业)

我不太清楚,在这个阶段,我对在工程或业务领域的东西。

你想,越往前走,以创建一个新的方法吗?

不,我会留给其他人

什么在您看来最好的立方体?什么是你更多受过训练的?

这是所有的个人喜好,但一般任何大雁品牌立方体是非常好的。在我看来,ZhanChi是最好的speedcubing。

您魔方如何处理他们的父母?

我爸爸来帮助和电影,只要我不魔方他们去睡觉时,他们不介意它的比赛。

你在学校最喜欢的科目是什么?

数学或化学

- 你练习一些体育锻炼?

如果体育锻炼,你的意思是运动,然后我打网球,足球,高尔夫球
但如果它是魔方 - 我不会做任何具体的魔方演练或演习。

太谢谢你了,费利克斯您的合作和耐心。这是很有趣。

所以,这是的Fazt。






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如果你的主要挑战是要克服自己?
每一天
在每一个解决
每个记录
如果参数的人是你吗?
你会如何处理压力?
他打破了26项世界纪录2011次之,4。
最好的speedcuber的历史
你应该知道我在说什么
嗯,他是费利克斯zemdegs。这个人改变了限制的speedcubing。他答应了我的采访,他的训练,记忆,铅的,个人喜好和颜色中立,当然。完整的采访,你可以看下。享受!
费利克斯zemdegs采访
地点:墨尔本,澳大利亚
日期:14 /02 /2012
-你是什么铅的(个人)在游戏2x2-7x7(幸运/荷兰/ 5 /12 / 100)?
2×2:不知道/不知道/1.6x/1.8x/2.1x
3:4.68/unsure/6.94/7.78
3哦:8.xy/unsure/11.xy/12.2x或/14.xy
4×4:26.xy/unsure/34.xy/unsure
5×5:48.23 /56/1:00.xy札。
6×6:43: 50/中/代理/2:06.xy两点。
学:2:59/3:2x /29/38
彩色中立
-关于颜色的中立性,它可以帮助你的吗?只是在十字架上?
它有助于在十字架上,并超前于第一对,这反过来有助于整个解决流动。
-什么是你的意见,cubers想成为中性的颜色?
开始练习它尽快,它的最简单的学习它,当你第一次学习解决一个立方体,但如果你想切换,这肯定是可能的,不少人已经做了
因为当你中性的颜色?有人劝你吗?
自从我学会了魔方。在他的视频,丹·布朗(pogobat)建议人们不仅解决绿色,但开始解决的最简单的横切断,使意义逻辑。
培训/记忆
有多少小时,你的火车一天(平均)?在哪儿?你如何把你的车吗?
在2009 /2010,公平一点–很难给出一个具体的数字,但如果我有一个猜想,也许每个小时+30 - 60分钟,并在周末。我通常在我的房间,但它常常有助于散,缓慢的解决,练习,和周围的伙食与立方体。我没有,我只是练习,我想,只要我想。
2011,它可能看起来像一堆我正在练习,但真的,我只是保持了我的速度,休息,和解决少。这一年,明年是最重要的一年,我真的看不到我的疯狂与立方体像我一样,当我13岁左右。
-你有什么建议立方体培训?
只有当你想,不要强迫它。做缓慢的解决没有一个计时器。玩的魔方,尝试的东西出来。
“休息,让你更好”–斯特凡胡贝尔/布林登瓦兰斯
你从哪里得到的算法,使用?
那些我第一次学会石油和锁相环是从badmephisto.com,但自那时以来,我学到了如此众多的不同的情况和algs,从各种来源,我真的不记得了。
-你是什么技术的记忆和识别的情况下?
加油!实践。没有任何秘密的学习和认识案件。它需要时间,与实践。更algs你学习,他们更容易成为学习。
检查
-你看到了什么/在检查的时间?
交叉和第一对。如果我找不到第一对在检查,这通常不是一个伟大的解决。
个人的
-什么我们让你更有成就?
我想我最喜欢的世界纪录是一个–之7.03,只是因为我终于做每个人都期待我做什么。一部分人坚持是9.21的平均分3,平均为5×5世界,也许我的4×4蒙住眼睛–因为它太意外了。
-什么是你最好的朋友,更多的帮助你?
好吧,我可以永远继续命名人谁启发了我,或我认为好朋友。这里的cubers在墨尔本都是很酷的,社会是非常好的。我的一些朋友从学校也采取的兴趣,我做什么。
-你听音乐时,你是解决培训?什么样的?
是的,大部分的时间,你可以看到我的视频,否则真的很无聊。
我喜欢各种音乐,和我的口味变化一天一天。主要的艺术家,我听有:360,酷玩,拥挤的房子,阿姆,伊凡塞斯(是的,怪),管理,灵感,我的化学浪漫,超越平凡,呛辣红椒合唱团,和提姆·明钦,但他并没有真的计数
此外,最近我下载了这个,我在听着那些歌的时刻(链接)
-你想成为什么当你长大?(职业)
我不太确定在这一阶段,我很期待在工程或商业领域。
-你想,更向前,创造一种新的方法?
不,我会让其他人
-什么是最好的在你的意见?什么是你的训练?
它的所有的个人偏好,但一般大品牌立方体是真的好。在我看来,这是最好的speedcubing zhanchi。
-他们的父母如何处理

[ 本帖最后由 LAMBO 于 2012-5-1 16:43 编辑 ]
作者: 雨下整晚    时间: 2012-5-1 16:44:12

真心的看了楼上翻译蛋疼了
作者: Cm_Hu    时间: 2012-5-1 16:44:28

我能说楼上的楼上是纯灌水么。。。。

[ 本帖最后由 Cm_Hu 于 2012-5-1 16:46 编辑 ]
作者: yyt。    时间: 2012-5-1 16:47:29

我是来求5L内容翻译的...
作者: rocksiu1998    时间: 2012-5-1 16:54:57

-What is your PB’s (personal best) in the puzzles 2x2-7x7 (lucky/nl/5/12/100) ?
你2x2-7x7的pb是多少?
2x2: no idea/no idea/1.6x/1.8x/2.1x
3x3: 4.68/unsure/6.94/7.78
3x3 OH: 8.xy/unsure/11.xy/12.2x or something/14.xy
4x4: 26.xy/unsure/34.xy/unsure
5x5: 48.23/56.xy/1:00.xy
6x6: 1:43/Mid 1:50's/2:00.xy/2:06.xy
7x7: 2:59/3:2x/3:29/3:38
这我就不翻了
Color Neutrality

-About color neutrality, it can helps in what you? Just in the cross?
(不太确定,应该是指六色底)关于六色地,他怎样帮助你还原,只是十字吗?
It helps in the cross, and the lookahead to the first pair, which in turn helps the whole solve flow.
会帮助十字,和预判第一组f2l,也就是帮助整个还原。
-What is your advice for cubers that want to be color neutral?
对想学六色底的魔友有什么建议?
Start practicing it as soon as possible, it’s easiest to learn it when you first learn to solve a cube, but if you want to switch, it’s definitely possible, quite a few people have done it
越早练习它越好,当你刚学会还原的时候学会更容易,但要是你想换成六色底(这段不太确定),这绝对有可能,有好几个人做过
-Since when you are Color neutral? Somebody adviced you?
既然你是一个用六色底的人,是有人建议你的吗?
Since I learnt the cube. In his video, Dan Brown (pogobat) advises people to not only solve on green, but start solving on the easiest cross to cut off time, which makes sense logically.
当我学模仿、、魔方的时候,在他的视频里,dan brown建议人们别只把绿色当为底色,而是从简单的十字面上开始


翻译一点试试
作者: tspan    时间: 2012-5-1 17:16:42

Feliks关于六色底的话又燃起了我重新练六色底的信心
作者: 通海吴    时间: 2012-5-1 17:27:47

LAMBO大师是好心,可是这个翻译让我更蛋疼了,尤其是那好几个“吉普车“,神马跟神马嘛
作者: evevicjay    时间: 2012-5-1 17:30:06

蹩脚的谷歌翻译。
作者: hjt0619    时间: 2012-5-1 17:45:14

好吧 楼主直接给个链接其实就可以了。
貌似前段时间andy发过其中一部分内容,并且还给了链接,我已经看过了。
作者: rocksiu1998    时间: 2012-5-1 18:24:50

把后半段也翻译了,仅供参考。。可能有误差

Training/memorization

-How many hours for day you train (in average)? Where? And how you divide your train?
你每天练习多久?在哪里和你怎样分开你的练习?
In 2009/2010, a fair bit – it’s never easy to put a number on it, but if I was to have a guess, maybe 30-60 minutes Monday-Friday, and 1hour+ on weekends. I normally practice in my room, but it often helps to do casual, slow solves, just practicing lookahead, and messing around with the cube. I had no regime, I just practiced whatever I wanted to, whenever I wanted to.
2009-2010,其实很难说每天练习多久,但是要是我一定要说的话,可能大概每天30-60分钟,在周一到周五,而在周末就一个小时以上,我一般在我房间练习,要是我只是很轻松的那样拧,慢拧,或者只是往前看这拧,或者就随便拧的话也会有帮助,我没有什么特定的规律,我只是想练就练。
In 2011, it probably looked like I was practicing heaps, but really, I just maintained my speed, taking breaks, and solving less. This year, and next year are the most important schooling years, and I really don’t see myself going crazy with the cube like I did when I was 13 or so.
2011,看起来我好像练了很多,不过其实,我只是保持我的速度,休息一下,还原少点。这年和明年是最重要的学年,我不觉得自己不会像我13岁左右的时候对魔方那么疯狂。
-What is your advice for cube training?
你对练习魔方有什么建议吗?
Only practice when you want to, don’t force it. Do slow solves without a timer. Play around with the cube, try things out.
“Breaks make you better” – Stefan Huber/Breandan Vallance
只有当你想练习时才练习,不要过于刻意。在没有计时器的时候做慢拧,就拿着魔方玩,试着尝试新的东西。
“休息让你做的更好” – Stefan Huber/Breandan Vallance
-Where did you get the algorithms that you use?
你用的公式是哪里来的?
The ones I first learnt for OLL and PLL were from Badmephisto.com, but since then I’ve learnt so many different cases and algs, from a wide variety of sources, and I don’t really remember.
刚开始的那些oll和pll是来自Badmephisto.com的,不过之后我学了大量的其他情况的公式,我已经不记得从哪里来的了。
-What is your technique for memorization and recognition of cases?
你对记忆和熟悉公式有什么技巧吗?
Just do it. Practice. There is no secret to learning and recognizing cases. It takes time, and practice. The more algs that you learn, the easier they become to learn.
就做,练习,对于学习和熟悉公式没什么秘诀,需要时间和练习,你公式学得越多,他们就越容易学。
Inspection

-What you see/find in the inspection time?
你在观察的时候,你会看/找什么呢?

Cross and first pair. If I don’t find the first pair in inspection, it is usually not a great solve.
十字和第一组f,要是我在观察的时候找不到第一组,一般那个还原都不会好。
Personal

-What WR let you more accomplished?
哪一个wr让你更满足?(accomplished我的理解在这里是满足)
I think my favourite world record was the 3x3 single – 7.03, just because I finally did what everyone was expecting me to do. Some others that stick out are the 9.21 average for 3x3, the sub minute average for 5x5 at worlds, and probably my 4x4 blindfolded – as it was so unexpected.
我想我最喜欢的wr是三速单次,7.03,就是因为我终于做到了大家都在期待我做的事。还有就是三速平均9.21,和sub一分钟的5x5记录,还有我的四盲,那个很意外。
-What are your best friends that more help you?
你的那个朋友给你最大的帮助?
Well, I could go on forever naming people who inspired me, or who I consider good friends. The cubers here in Melbourne are all really cool, the community is really nice. Some of my friends from school also take interest in what I do.
其实,启发过我的人,或我所认为的好朋友,多的我可以永远地说下去。在墨尔本这里的魔友都很酷,这团体也很好,有些在我学校的朋友也对我所做的感兴趣。
-Do you listen music when you are solving and training? What kind of?
你在练习的时候会听音乐吗?有那种?
Yes, most of the time, as you can see in my videos, otherwise it gets quite boring.
I enjoy all sorts of music, and my tastes change day to day. The main artists I listen to are: 360, Coldplay, Crowded house, Eminem, Evanescence (yeah, bit weird), MGMT, Muse, My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Red Hot Chili peppers, and Tim Minchin, but he doesn’t really count
Also, I recently downloaded this, and I’m listening to all of those songs at the moment (link)
是的,大部分时间我都有听,你可以看我的视频,要不然会变得无聊。我各种音乐都喜欢,我的口味也常在变,我主要听得歌手(和作曲家)有360, Coldplay, Crowded house, Eminem, Evanescence (对,是有点奇怪), MGMT, Muse, My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Red Hot Chili peppers,还有 Tim Minchin, 但其实他不算。
-What you want to be when you grow up? (occupation)
你长大先做什么?
I’m not too sure at this stage, I’m looking towards something in the engineering or business fields.
现在我还不太确定,我比较倾向在工程学和商业的那面。
-Do you want, more forward, to create a new method?
你想去创造一种新的还原方法吗?
No, I’ll leave that to other people
不会,这还是让其他人做吧
-What the best cube in your opinion? And what is that you more trained?
你个人觉得那种魔方最好?和你用的最多是哪个?(And what is that you more trained?这句不太肯定)
It’s all personal preference, but generally any Dayan brand cube is really good. In my opinion, the ZhanChi is the best for speedcubing.
这全是个人意见,大体来说大雁的魔方都很不错,对我个人来说,展翅对于速拧是最好的。
-How their parents deal with you cubing?
你的父母怎样对待你玩魔方?
My dad comes to competitions to help out and film, and as long as I’m not cubing when they go to sleep, they don’t really mind it.
我爸爸回来比赛帮忙和录像,只要我不在他们睡觉的时候玩,他们不太在意。
What is your favorite subject in the school ?
你在学校最喜欢的科目是什么?
Maths or Chemistry
数学和化学
- Do you practice some kind of physical exercise?
你会做些身体运动吗?(physical exercise,和体育差不多,不知道怎样翻)
If by physical exercise, you mean sport, then I play tennis, soccer, and golf
But if it was for cubing - I don't do any specific drills or exercises for cubing.
要是你的身体运动是指运动的话,我玩网球,足球和高尔夫
But if it was for cubing - I don't do any specific drills or exercises for cubing.(这句真不太懂,不翻。。)

Thank you so much, Feliks for your collaboration and patience. This was very interesting.
谢谢你的合作和耐心(这句翻译后有点怪。。),felik,这很有意思。
So, that was The Fazt.

[ 本帖最后由 rocksiu1998 于 2012-5-1 20:15 编辑 ]
作者: ﹎鏦鉨開始↗    时间: 2012-5-1 18:29:30

学习6
色底比魔武双修更困难
作者: andyzhangdayu    时间: 2012-5-1 19:00:31

原帖由 yyt。 于 2012-5-1 16:47 发表
我是来求5L内容翻译的...


我是来膜拜这个幽默的。
作者: chris    时间: 2012-5-1 19:32:27

原帖由 rocksiu1998 于 2012-5-1 18:24 发表
2011,it probably looked like I was practicing heaps(这句不懂)

Heap = 一大堆
许多的意思
“2011年,应该看起来我练的许多”
作者: rocksiu1998    时间: 2012-5-1 20:15:54

原帖由 chris 于 2012-5-1 19:32 发表

Heap = 一大堆
许多的意思
“2011年,应该看起来我练的许多”
哦哦,i see,改了




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