这个PLL大家都用什么公式??

islandsea

<P>就是GAN版本的PLL的第六个公式</P>
<P>如图:</P>
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<P>&nbsp;这个是GAN的老版本:</P>
<P>x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2,</P>
<P>也就是PLL5的逆向,会了PLL5,基本也就差不多了,记忆相对简单些.</P>
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<P>还有GAN的改进版:</P>
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<P>以及中岛的公式;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>l U' R - (z') R'2 U' L U R'2 (xy) R2</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>可以看出后两者大同小异，未非这就是目前最合理的转法了吗？但看公式长度，似乎比第一种转法要长，而且xyz齐上阵，整个魔方在手中翻来滚去，我头已经晕了。。。。。。。在我的理解，公式舍短而用长，理由一定是长的公式更顺手，但这么个翻来滚去的公式能叫顺手吗？我不理解。。。。。</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>当然还有其它很多的转法，这里就不一一列举了。</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>我刚刚开始学PLL，不知用哪个好了，请诸位高人们指点一二。</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P>谢了！！</P>

倚红颜

    你们的头像都是怎么换的呃？？？点击哪里呢

拂晓狂狮

哪个顺手就有哪个

zzyreal

（l U' R）D2（R' U R）D2 R2
我觉得这个很好用

12335

x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2我用的是这个,觉得很顺手.高手翻来复去,是为了看最后一步吗,中岛,到了最后一步,还是要观察的.

狂风扬舞

x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2，我也觉得这个好用，不过到D2的时候，一般都用无名指，但速度较慢。

islandsea

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原帖由 <I>zzyreal</I> 于 2008-11-7 11:13 发表 <A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=297104&amp;ptid=16331" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> （l U' R）D2（R' U R）D2 R2 我觉得这个很好用

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<P>哦,漏了这个公式,试了一下,的确挺好用,也发现了一点,原来X'R和l是等效的,呵呵</P>
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<P>这么看来上面三个公式加上这个,实际就是两个公式,翻的和不翻的........</P>

islandsea

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原帖由 <I>12335</I> 于 2008-11-7 11:24 发表 <A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=297121&amp;ptid=16331" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2我用的是这个,觉得很顺手.高手翻来复去,是为了看最后一步吗,中岛,到了最后一步,还是要观察的.

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<P>高手做完PLL不就完成了吗?又不象我做层先的,做完三角还要做三棱,呵呵.难道是检察一下,以免DNF?</P>

islandsea

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原帖由 <I>狂风扬舞</I> 于 2008-11-7 11:29 发表 <A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=297127&amp;ptid=16331" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2，我也觉得这个好用，不过到D2的时候，一般都用无名指，但速度较慢。

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<P>看来好象用这个公式的人最多啊?我也是这样,尽管X'R和l是等效的,而且用l还要少一步,但可能是受PLL5是影响,总觉得不做一个X'就不舒服--------哈哈,一看这表现就不是高手,不做翻转又不舒服,XYX一起做又做不来.......唉.....&lt;br&gt;</P>
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<P>顺便说一下,我做PLL5时也是用无名指勾的,虽然勾的很生涩,看GAN的指法视频中,居然是用手掌(拇指和食指)去拧的,不理解...</P>

食叶虫

我跟4楼的一样~~~   （l U' R）D2（R' U R）D2 R2