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各位不要再把东贤(East Sheen)和Meffert's(M记)混为一谈了 [复制链接]

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发表于 2008-10-9 01:22:39 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
<><FONT size=5>四阶、五阶魔方有哪几款比较好的?肯定会有人脱口而出R记,M记和V记。其所指就是Rubik,东贤和V-cube。而M记指的是东贤目前应该已经成为大家的共识了。我也这样以为直到前两天,看到一包装上写着Meffert's,便联想到M记,就说:“这东贤的吧。”当即被否定了。再看东贤的包装,上面赫然写着——EAST SHEEN。这让我大为惊讶:我们平时常说的M记又是怎么回事呢?</FONT></P>
<><FONT size=5>到吧里搜了下Meffert,没有搜索结果;搜Meffert's,有一篇:</FONT></P>
<><FONT size=5><A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=2158&amp;highlight=meffert%27s" target=_blank><FONT color=#262626>Meffert's 四阶断轴的修复</FONT></A> (其文中M4意思是四轴球,不知道现在的M5又该是什么了)</FONT></P>
<><FONT size=5>搜M记,有四篇:</FONT></P>
<><A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=3927&amp;highlight=M%BC%C7" target=_blank><FONT size=5>国产四阶的组装(东贤或称M记四阶结构也一样)</FONT></A></P>
<><A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=12488&amp;highlight=M%BC%C7" target=_blank><FONT size=5>M记4、5阶,白的,黑的???</FONT></A><FONT size=5> </FONT></P>
<><LABEL></LABEL><A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=2067&amp;highlight=M%BC%C7" target=_blank><FONT size=5>M记透明三阶魔方是香港造的</FONT></A><FONT size=5> </FONT></P>
<><LABEL></LABEL><A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/viewthread.php?tid=2545&amp;highlight=M%BC%C7" target=_blank><FONT size=5>我的M记4阶拆解</FONT></A><FONT size=5> </FONT></P>
<><FONT size=5>其中第一篇明显把M记就当成东贤;第二篇并未明确表示M记就是东贤;第三篇M记明显不是东贤(东贤不产三阶);第四篇从图看并不能判断是否为东贤(贴纸反光度不强,好像是磨砂的,可惜看不太清)。到淘宝上搜,也同样是将东贤就称为M记,或者直接写着Meffert's东贤。于是我又到维基百科找了下:东贤,没有搜索结果;East Sheen,伦敦郊区的一个地名;Meffert,找到的则是一个魔方发明人——<SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT size=5>Uwe Mèffert</FONT>。</SPAN></FONT></P>
<><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT size=5>全文如下:</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">
<P><SPAN><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_M%C3%A8ffert"><SPAN><FONT size=5>Uwe Mèffert</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT size=5> (born in </FONT><A title="November 28" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_28"><FONT size=5>28 November</FONT></A><FONT size=5> </FONT><A title=1939 href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939"><FONT size=5>1939</FONT></A><FONT size=5>) has manufactured and sold </FONT><A title="Mechanical puzzles" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_puzzles"><FONT size=5>mechanical puzzles</FONT></A><FONT size=5> in the style of </FONT><A title="Rubik's Cube" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_Cube"><FONT size=5>Rubik's Cube</FONT></A><FONT size=5> since the original Cube craze. His first design was the </FONT><A title=Pyraminx href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyraminx"><FONT size=5>Pyraminx</FONT></A><FONT size=5> and others include the </FONT><A title=Megaminx href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaminx"><FONT size=5>Megaminx</FONT></A><FONT size=5>, </FONT><A title=Skewb href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skewb"><FONT size=5>Skewb</FONT></A><FONT size=5> and </FONT><A title="Skewb Diamond" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skewb_Diamond"><FONT size=5>Skewb Diamond</FONT></A><FONT size=5>. More recently he has licensed and rereleased designs from other manufacturers, such as </FONT><A title=Dogic href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogic"><FONT size=5>Dogic</FONT></A><FONT size=5>.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN style="mso-ansi-language: EN"><FONT size=5>In the 1970s Mèffert created some puzzles for his own amusement using pieces of </FONT><A title=Balsa href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balsa"><FONT size=5>balsa</FONT></A><FONT size=5> wood attached to a center ball by rubber bands. He didn't think anyone else would be interested in them, and put them away and forgot about them until Ern</FONT></SPAN><FONT size=5><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Mincho'; mso-ansi-language: EN; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">ő</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN style="mso-ansi-language: EN"> Rubik's <A title="Rubik's Cube" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_Cube">Rubik's Cube</A> became a worldwide sensation in the 1980s. In 1981 Mèffert took his puzzles to a Japanese toymaker who agreed to market them. One of them, <A title=Pyraminx href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyraminx">Pyraminx</A>, sold more than 10 million pieces that year,and 90 million within three years. Since that time, Mèffert and his associates have created more than 100 <A title="Three-dimensional space" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-dimensional_space">3-D</A> rotating mechanical puzzles.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN style="mso-ansi-language: EN"><FONT size=5>Mèffert also created his own version of </FONT><A title=Sudoku href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudoku"><FONT size=5>sudoku</FONT></A><FONT size=5>, the nine-number print puzzle which has gained such popularity in recent years. His puzzle consists of nine 3×3 grids, “representing total logic.” One has to place the numerals 1 to ffice:smarttags" /&gt;ffice:smarttags" /&gt;ffice:smarttags" /&gt;ffice:smarttags" /&gt;<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:chmetcnv w:st="on" UnitName="in" SourceValue="9" HasSpace="True" Negative="False" NumberType="1" TCSC="0">9 in</st1:chmetcnv> each horizontal and vertical row, each 3×3 box and the two major diagonals without repeating numbers. A “Chinese Magic Square”, consisting of the numbers 1–9, is hidden in a 3×3 grid somewhere in each puzzle. Adding any three numbers together in any direction always adds up to 15, providing additional challenge. Mèffert calls his version of the puzzle KOKONOTSU, a Japanese word meaning simply nine.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN style="mso-ansi-language: EN"><FONT size=5>Uwe Meffert was born in Wernigerode in the Harz Mountains of Germany, on the 28th. of November 1939. Mèffert is the son of Otto Oscar Wilhelm Rudolph Mèffert and Emmy Johanna Frieda Von-Vorkauf. He was educated in </FONT><A title=Heidelberg href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidelberg"><FONT size=5>Heidelberg</FONT></A><FONT size=5>, </FONT><A title=Germany href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany"><FONT size=5>Germany</FONT></A><FONT size=5>; </FONT><A title=Geelong href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geelong"><FONT size=5>Geelong</FONT></A><FONT size=5>, </FONT><A title=Australia href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia"><FONT size=5>Australia</FONT></A><FONT size=5>; and </FONT><A title=Bern href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bern"><FONT size=5>Bern</FONT></A><FONT size=5>, </FONT><A title=Switzerland href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland"><FONT size=5>Switzerland</FONT></A><FONT size=5>. He has lived in Asia since the 1970s and currently resides in </FONT><A title="Hong Kong" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong"><FONT size=5>Hong Kong</FONT></A><FONT size=5>. He is married to Jing Meffert; they have three children: Michelle, Andrew and Ulrich and two grandchildren, Mikaela and Zachary.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><FONT size=5></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT size=5>而我前文叙述所见的则是Meffert's厂家的产品。Meffert's与东贤的关系我尚不十分清楚,但很明显其间是不能简单地画等号的。东贤产品以二、四、五阶魔方为主,而Meffert's产品则以异型魔方为主,如金字塔、五魔方、skewb之类。</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>所以,希望大家以后不要以M记称呼东贤(要论记应该是E记),更希望各位玩家多展示下Meffert's的产品。</FONT></SPAN></P>

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发表于 2008-10-9 01:40:37 |只看该作者

这几个是Mefferts的

<P> 12 color Pyraminx Crystal.jpg </P>
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<P><STRONG><FONT size=4>Meffert's Pyraminx Crystal (white body)</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT size=4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P> 209_big.jpg &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Skewb Cube with PET labels in display box.jpg </P>
<P><STRONG><FONT size=4>Meffert's Skewb</FONT></STRONG> </P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P> Pyraminx In Hex.display box.jpg </P>
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<P><STRONG><FONT size=4>Pyraminx In Hex.display box</FONT></STRONG></P>
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能用就行。管他是谁生产的。
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发表于 2008-10-9 07:30:25 |只看该作者
唉,都把东贤当作M记了。包括我也是这样

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呵呵  確實是這樣的   但叫習慣了  你說M4 M5 大家也都知道是東賢 而不是Meffert's


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楼主说得是对的,习惯归习惯,事实还是应该搞清楚,以免误导新手。

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嗯,说的不错,魔方知识普及贴
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东贤就是东贤,M就是M。区别大着呢。东贤的厂只是代工某些m产品罢了。就好像丙的厂代理r,我们就能把国丙叫做r吗?当然不能!支持楼主!M2,4,5只是东贤245阶的一种包装的称呼,就是那种透明塑料壳

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嗯不错,顶楼主,也算是普及魔方知识了,呵呵.
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