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发表于 2010-11-5 23:22:30 |只看该作者
1.        The segment at position 8 is assumed to be correct. The other segments will be placed correctly alongside it, from segment 1 to segment 7.
2.        Find the segment that belongs in position 1 and note its position. Do the appropriate sequence below:
2: ABA
3: BA
4: A
5: CA
6: DCA
7: DA
3.        Find the segment that belongs in position 2 and note its position. Do the appropriate sequence below:
3: BCB
4: CB
5: B
6: DB
7: DCB
4.        Find the segment that belongs in position 3 and note its position. Do the appropriate sequence below:
4: CDC
5: DC
6: C
7: DCDC
5.        Find the segments that belongs in positions 4 and 5 and note their positions. Do the appropriate sequence below:
4,5: -
4,6: CBCBDCDB
4,7: BDCDBCBC
5,4: BCDBDCB
5,6: BABACBCA
5,7: BCDCDCBC
6,4: ACBCABAB
6,5: BCBCBDBC
6,7: BCBDBCBD
7,4: CBCDCDCB
7,5: CBDBCBCB
7,6: D
6.        To swap the segments at 6 and 7 then do ABCDCDCA and turn over the ball.
A nice pattern for the Rainbow Master:
From the solved state, rotate the bottom layers of the ball by 180 degrees, and perform ADCDCBC.
Solution 1 for any Masterball:
I used to solve the general Masterball by an extension of the Rainbow solution. This is rather complicated. I have a much easier solution now, but for completeness only, my original solution is provided here. I much recommend using the easier solution method further down this page.
Phase 1: Pair up the pieces in the middle bands.
This is the same as phase 1 of the Rainbow solution.
Phase 2: Orient middle band pairs.
a.        Put the middle band pairs in the correct order (ignoring orientation), by using the same methods as in the final phase of the Rainbow solution.
b.        Count how many of the middle band pairs are upside down.
c.        If this is an odd number then move one of the middle bands once in any direction and go back to phase 1 to pair them up properly. The next time you return here there will be an even number of reversed pairs. Note that your puzzle may have a pair that looks identical whichever way up it is. If so, consider it to be in such a orientation that there are an even number of pairs upside down, so that you don't have to go back to phase 1.
d.        If an even number of pairs are upside down, then remember which pairs of pieces they are. Use any slice moves to place one such pair in the front segment and one such pair at the back, and do sequence b. Repeat this for all the pairs that were upside down before. If you were to place the segments in the right order again, they would now automatically end up in the right orientation. This is not necessary right now, but it may be a good idea to do this anyway to check if the orientations are correct.
Phase 3: Pair up the pieces in the polar caps.
This is identical to phase 2. of the Rainbow solution.
Phase 4: Align the pairs in the middle bands and the caps to build segments.
a.        Find any pair of middle band pieces and pair of cap pieces that belong together in one segment.
b.        Use any slice moves to put them in opposite segments.
c.        Assuming the orientation of both pairs of pieces matter, check whether the polar cap pieces are upside down relative to the middle band pieces on the other side. If not, go back to step a to try another set of pieces. If no set of pieces can be placed in the correct orientation, then ignore the orientation for now as we can fix it later.
d.        Now do sequence b ON THE POLAR CAPS to put them all in a finished segment. The reason you must use b on the caps and not on the bands is that the middle band pair was already correctly oriented in phase 2.
e.        Repeat the above to solve all the segments apart from the orientation of a few of the cap pairs.
f.        Count how many segments have the cap pieces upside down. If there is an odd number of such segments then rotate one of the polar caps once in any direction and go back to phase 3 again. The next time you reach this point, there will automatically be an even number of reversed cap pairs. Note that if your puzzle has a segment where the caps are indistinguishable, then you can assume its orientation is such that an even number of segments are wrong.
g.        To reverse the caps of any two segments, then you can use sequence b four times to solve them. If A and B are the two incorrect segments, and C is any other, then use sequence b to swap the caps of A and B, B and C, C and A, and finally C and B. Repeat this until all the segments are correct. As this is a rather tedious procedure, it is best to try to place as many of the cap pairs correctly straightaway in step c.
Phase 5: Put the segments in order.
This is the same as phase 4 of the Rainbow solution.
Solution 2 for any Masterball:
Phase 1: Put pieces in their correct layers.
a.        Find any piece in the top hemisphere (cap or band) that is not in the correct layer.
b.        Hold that piece at the front, just to the left of the seam. (On the Logi-Vip sphere, you probably have to turn the layer to get it there.)
c.        Find a piece in the opposite layer that does not belong there.
d.        Turn that opposite layer until the wrong piece lies at the front, just to the right of the seam.
e.        Do this sequence:
1. Twist the right hand side of the ball.
2. Shift the layer containing the two pieces to the right, so both pieces cross the seam.
3. Twist the right hand side of the ball again.
f.        Repeat a-e until all the pieces are in the correct layer.
Phase 2: Solve two opposite layers.
a.        Find in any layer two adjacent pieces that you want to swap.
b.        Hold those pieces at the front, one on each side of the seam. (On the Logi-Vip sphere, you probably have to turn the layer to get them there.)
c.        Find any two adjacent pieces in the opposite layer that you also want to swap.
d.        Rotate that layer to bring them to the front, too.
e.        Do the following sequence:
1. Twist the right hand side of the ball.
2. Shift the top layer to the right.
3. Twist the right hand side of the ball.
4. Shift the top layer to the left.
5. Shift the bottom layer to the right.
6. Twist the right hand side of the ball.
7. Shift the bottom layer to the left.
8. Twist the right hand side of the ball.
f.        Continue using steps a-e to do swaps in both layers until one of the layers is solved.
g.        Find any adjacent pair in the remaining layer that must be swapped.
h.        Turn the layer to bring it to the front.
i.        Do the sequence of step e. This temporarily disturbs two pieces in the solved layer.
j.        Repeat steps g-i for another pair, and this will also restore the temporarily swappes pieces.
k.        Continue repeating g-i until either both layers are solved, or until one of the layers apparently needs a single swap.
l.        If one layer apparently needs single swap, it really means that nearly all of them are in the wrong place. Simply pick one of the two 'swapped' pieces, and consider that one to be correct. Then use steps g-j to place the other 7 pieces correct relative to the chosen piece.
Phase 3: Solve other two layers.
This is the same as phase 2, except as applied to the remaining two layers. Finally, turn all the layers so that they match up.
Improvements
It is of course possible to do phase 1 on all four layers at the same time. In the top two layers put an incorrect piece to the left of the seam, in the bottom layers to the right. Then apply a twist, turn the top two layers to the right, and another twist.
Similarly is is also possible to do phase 2 and 3 at the same time, making swaps in all four layers simultaneously, again by simply by sliding two layers in the move sequence of step 2e. It can get a little tricky to remember exactly what is going on in each layer.
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新的?旧的???????
入魔已经半年了啊。。。
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原帖由 sky妖媚 于 2010-11-5 23:23 发表
新的?旧的???????
旧的 旧的都需要血拼才能买回来 新的我实在整不起了   应该有全新的桶装的
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你家那一大堆应该已经很多钱了~~~~~~
入魔已经半年了啊。。。
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原帖由 chunye810516 于 2010-11-5 23:22 发表
1.        The segment at position 8 is assumed to be correct. The other segments will be placed correctly alongside it, from segment 1 to segment 7.
2.        Find the segment that belongs in position 1 and note  ...

这个是。。。。什么额???????
入魔已经半年了啊。。。
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发表于 2010-11-6 00:12:19 |只看该作者
野子先去血拼个相机回来吧
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转让正版rubik's clock,Rubik's magic达斯摩尔等
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发表于 2010-11-6 01:27:03 |只看该作者
难得的魔方藏品,配好图

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发表于 2010-11-6 01:59:34 |只看该作者
这么说彩虹球算盗版的了????

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原帖由 kattokid 于 2010-11-5 23:18 发表
绝对无码啊。第一次发现原来1982年可收藏的魔方挺多的

1982 年的红酒也相当有收藏价值!(法国的)

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发表于 2010-11-6 07:47:42 |只看该作者
感覺上好像Vip 比普通master ball小...是嗎?
收魔方,過程讓人樂在其中

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