这个PLL大家都用什么公式??

islandsea

<P>就是GAN版本的PLL的第六个公式</P>
<P>如图:</P>
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<P>&nbsp;这个是GAN的老版本:</P>
<P>x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2,</P>
<P>也就是PLL5的逆向,会了PLL5,基本也就差不多了,记忆相对简单些.</P>
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<P>还有GAN的改进版:</P>
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<P>以及中岛的公式;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>l U' R - (z') R'2 U' L U R'2 (xy) R2</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>可以看出后两者大同小异，未非这就是目前最合理的转法了吗？但看公式长度，似乎比第一种转法要长，而且xyz齐上阵，整个魔方在手中翻来滚去，我头已经晕了。。。。。。。在我的理解，公式舍短而用长，理由一定是长的公式更顺手，但这么个翻来滚去的公式能叫顺手吗？我不理解。。。。。</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>当然还有其它很多的转法，这里就不一一列举了。</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=宋体 size=2>我刚刚开始学PLL，不知用哪个好了，请诸位高人们指点一二。</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P>谢了！！</P>

islandsea

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原帖由 <I>xpboy</I> 于 2008-11-9 10:03 发表 <A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=299955&amp;ptid=16331" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 我在想这个问题：gan的录像里，D2为啥是用右手手掌去拧的？是不是那个角度的摄像头照不到左后侧的无名指中指D2，才退而求其次选用这个手法的？

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<P>我也存在同样的疑问...........</P>

ZJY

把已经复位的放在右前方，然后 LFR'ULU'RUL'U'F'L'

lt-219

我用x'(R U' R)z'(R'2 U' L U R2' x y R2)
pll全用GAN的

zhaolin

（l U' R）D2（R' U R）D2 R2 ,我也觉的好用

xpboy

我在想这个问题：gan的录像里，D2为啥是用右手手掌去拧的？是不是那个角度的摄像头照不到左后侧的无名指中指D2，才退而求其次选用这个手法的？

amanbaby

我用这个x'(R U' R)z'(R'2 U' L U R2' x y R2)
不过自己改了一下x'(R U' R)z'(R'2 U' L U R2' U2)
欢迎拍砖

kyl025638

我也感觉4楼的不错
翻来覆去太浪费时间的

文三路一枝花

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原帖由 <I>12335</I> 于 2008-11-7 11:24 发表 <A href="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=297121&amp;ptid=16331" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.mf8-china.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> x' (R U' R)D2(R' U R)D2 R2我用的是这个,觉得很顺手.高手翻来复去,是为了看最后一步吗,中岛,到了最后一步,还是要观察的.

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<P>我也用这个,其实就是FRIDRICH原来的公式,转个方向.</P>

wz0311

<>我有两条:harrischen的 :x UR'U'LURU'&nbsp;r'2 U'RULU'R'U&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1-3&nbsp; 7-9</P>
<>还有一条RBR'FRB'L'R'BLF'L'B'&nbsp;&nbsp; 1-7&nbsp; 3-9</P>
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